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Message de anissa posté le 04-04-2007 à 09:56:08 (S | E | F | I)
Hi people!

This summer I'll travel in England with an organism, and I've to fill in an entry form in English; they ask my study level, but I don't know if, for that, I must write "Première" (je suis en première au lycée) or the equivalent word in Great-Britain...

What does the level "Première" correspond in England?

thanks

xoxo
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Modifié par lucile83 le 04-04-2007 17:16

Réponse: 'Première' (class ) de solmaz, postée le 04-04-2007 à 20:28:33 (S | E)
Hello,

I don't know the way it works in England but in North America, the last year before university/college is "grade 12". I have no idea whatsoever what "première" means but, as you go from grade 1 to 12, and knowing that grade 12 is the last year of high school, I guess you'll figure it out and will come up with the right answer.

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Modifié par solmaz le 04-04-2007 20:30

Réponse: 'Première' (class ) de solmaz, postée le 04-04-2007 à 20:37:26 (S | E)
According to what I read here: Lien Internet

they say: Admission to the CPGE is very competitive and is usually based on performance during the last two years of high school, called Première and Terminale.
Therefore I'd conclude that première stands for grade 11

Réponse: 'Première' (class ) de magstmarc, postée le 04-04-2007 à 21:45:06 (S | E)
Hello,

En Nouvelle-Zélande, il y a quelques années de cela les terminales étaient des "7th year students" (système il me semble assez proche du Britannique); alors, si ça n'a pas changé "première" correspondrait à "6th year".

Réponse: 'Première' (class ) de marlond, postée le 04-04-2007 à 23:34:32 (S | E)
Having gone through the English education system, I'll outline it for you and you can decide what the English equivalent of 'première' is. There are a few different systems actually, but this one is the most common:

Start PRIMARY SCHOOLat 4/5 years old
Reception (first year of schooling)
First Year / Year 1
Second Year / Year 2
Third Year / Year 3 -
Fourth Year / Year 4
Fifth Year / Year 5
Sixth Year / Year 6

Start secondary school/high school (same things, different names) at 11 years old
Year 7 (some people call this 'first year', and begin the numbering again, but nowadays people usually call this 'year 7', where I'm from anyway)
Year 8
Year 9
Year 10
Year 11
Leave school at 16

Then you can go and get a job, or go to college or Sixth Form, usually for two years (year 12 and year 13 at Sixth Form, or first year and second year at college)

NB we usually call them 'years' not 'grades'; 'grades' is American, and I've never heard anyone call it 'seventh year', though it's probably just another name for the same thing.

If I understand the French system correctly (which I probably don't ) 'première' is 'year 12', and 'terminale' is 'year 13'

Hope that clears something up...

Réponse: 'Première' (class ) de anissa, postée le 04-04-2007 à 23:45:51 (S | E)
oh thank you everybody!

So, is "Leave school" a year (or a grade) ? And if yes, it stands for "PRemière" ?

Réponse: 'Première' (class ) de marlond, postée le 04-04-2007 à 23:48:44 (S | E)
No, 'leave school' is not a year/grade. The final year of high school is 'year 11'.

If you're 16 at the end of this school year, you'd be in 'year 11' in England.

Réponse: 'Première' (class ) de anissa, postée le 04-04-2007 à 23:55:09 (S | E)
Ok so if I understand, I would be in year 12 (I'm 16 but I was born in october)

thnaksss!

Réponse: 'Première' (class ) de marlond, postée le 04-04-2007 à 23:57:53 (S | E)
Equivalents
Year 7 - sixième
Year 8 - 5e
Year 9 - 4e
Year 10 - 3e
Year 11 - seconde

Year 12 - première
Year 13 - terminale

(I think)

But at the end of this academic year, i.e. August, you'll still be 16, which would mean you're in 'year 11' unless you skipped a year?

Réponse: 'Première' (class ) de TravisKidd, postée le 05-04-2007 à 06:26:34 (S | E)
In general, one's grade is 5 less than one's age. (Although it could, for part of the time, be 4 or 6, depending on when one's birthday occurs.)

Elementary School
Kindergarten, 1st grade - 5th or 6th grade

Middle School
6th grade - 8th grade

Junior High School
7th grade - 9th grade

High School
9th or 10th grade - 12th grade

High school grades have special names:
9th = Freshman
10th = Sophomore
11th = Junior
12th = Senior

So you can say "I'm in 12th grade" or "I'm in my senior year (of high school)" or simply "I'm a senior (in high school)."

It is useful to specify "in high school", because the special names for high school grades are used again for the four undergraduate years of college (which in English is after high school and can mean any post-secondary institution, but usually refers to a university), but one no longer speaks of grades in college (i.e., there is no "13th grade").

The comedian David Letterman once recited a list of "The Top 10 signs you are a graduate student", one of which was "You find yourself telling children you're in 20th grade."

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Modifié par TravisKidd le 05-04-2007 06:38
Here I have described the American system. Anissa, I hadn't noticed that you were asking specifically about the system in Great Britain. My apologies.

Réponse: 'Première' (class ) de lucile83, postée le 05-04-2007 à 07:14:28 (S | E)
Hello,
Voici un lien qui vous éclairera encore plus :
Lien Internet

Les 1eres et terminales sont regroupées dans la "6th form" qui s'étale sur 2 ans.
See you

Réponse: 'Première' (class ) de anissa, postée le 05-04-2007 à 10:25:12 (S | E)
TravisKidd that's alright,finally thanks, now I know the American system ^^
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Modifié par lucile83 le 05-04-2007 14:26

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